Que pasa Maxi!
Ante todo el reconocimiento en mi Blog por toda esa trayectoria ininterrumpida dentro del "Punk y tinta china" como bien lo definis vos. Hoy en dia si pienso en un dibujante referente del Punk pienso entre los primeros en Maxi. Y no solo en Argentina o Sudamerica sino ya a nivel mundial, espero no te cause gracia, se te conoce por tus decadas de trabajo y compromiso. Y eso es Punk. Compromiso con lo que uno cree, destruir y generar, pasion y autogestión, todo ello se ve reflejado en tus comics y en tu trayectoria en bandas, fanzines, libros y participaciones en ferias de Fanzines o de libros, conciertos y manifestaciones, tatuajes, etc, etc.
Ante todo el reconocimiento en mi Blog por toda esa trayectoria ininterrumpida dentro del "Punk y tinta china" como bien lo definis vos. Hoy en dia si pienso en un dibujante referente del Punk pienso entre los primeros en Maxi. Y no solo en Argentina o Sudamerica sino ya a nivel mundial, espero no te cause gracia, se te conoce por tus decadas de trabajo y compromiso. Y eso es Punk. Compromiso con lo que uno cree, destruir y generar, pasion y autogestión, todo ello se ve reflejado en tus comics y en tu trayectoria en bandas, fanzines, libros y participaciones en ferias de Fanzines o de libros, conciertos y manifestaciones, tatuajes, etc, etc.
LIBRO: PUNK ROCK Y TINTA CHINA
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LIBRO: PUNK Y SUS DERIVADOS
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MUESTRA COLECTIVA EN RUSIA
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LIBRO: PUNK Y SUS DERIVADOS
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MUESTRA COLECTIVA EN RUSIA
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No vamos a poder cubrir toda tu trayectoria pero a ver si con una docena de preguntas ping-pong, difundimos mas tus ideas y lucha.
(Max recien llegado después de 20 días fuera, con la maleta aún en mano se encuentra con el siguiente cuadro: su casa toda revuelta, con sus dos gatos que rompieron y cagaron por todos lados y atajando ésta, la primer pregunta:
(Max recien llegado después de 20 días fuera, con la maleta aún en mano se encuentra con el siguiente cuadro: su casa toda revuelta, con sus dos gatos que rompieron y cagaron por todos lados y atajando ésta, la primer pregunta:
10ch10c- Que llegó primero a tu vida, el dibujo o la musica? Y como fué que decidiste juntarlos a ambos?
PRIMERO FUERON LOS DIBUJOS, OBVIO, COMO LA MAYORÍA DE LOS CHICOS QUE LO PRIMERO QUE HACEN ES DIBUJAR, Y BUENO, YO NUNCA PARÉ. YO NOSÉ SI ES QUE JUNTÉ A AMBOS O SE FUÉ DANDO NATURALMENTE, MUCHOS DE LOS TRABAJOS QUE YO HAGO ESTÀN BASADOS EN LA MÚSICA, O SON LETRAS DE CANCIONES, O LOGOS PARA BANDAS, ARTE PARA BANDAS, PERO NO ES ALGO QUE ESTÁ PLANEADO, SE VÁ DANDO. TAMBIÉN HAGO OTRAS COSAS...Y SI, LA MÚSICA ES UNA DE LAS INFLUENCIAS PRINCIPALES, DIGAMOS QUE EL PUNK ROCK BASICAMENTE...
PRIMERO FUERON LOS DIBUJOS, OBVIO, COMO LA MAYORÍA DE LOS CHICOS QUE LO PRIMERO QUE HACEN ES DIBUJAR, Y BUENO, YO NUNCA PARÉ. YO NOSÉ SI ES QUE JUNTÉ A AMBOS O SE FUÉ DANDO NATURALMENTE, MUCHOS DE LOS TRABAJOS QUE YO HAGO ESTÀN BASADOS EN LA MÚSICA, O SON LETRAS DE CANCIONES, O LOGOS PARA BANDAS, ARTE PARA BANDAS, PERO NO ES ALGO QUE ESTÁ PLANEADO, SE VÁ DANDO. TAMBIÉN HAGO OTRAS COSAS...Y SI, LA MÚSICA ES UNA DE LAS INFLUENCIAS PRINCIPALES, DIGAMOS QUE EL PUNK ROCK BASICAMENTE...
10ch10c- Cuando tenes claro que comenzas un diseño en que consisten tus materiales? Trabajas en cualquier hoja o tenes un formato? Y en que consiste el proceso hasta el acabado final?
EN GENERAL SIEMPRE USO LAS HOJAS A4, ÉSE SERÍA EL TAMAÑO. EL PAPEL COMÚN DE 75GRS-85GRS. OSEA USO EL PRIMERO QUE ENCUENTRO, SI ES BLANCA LA HOJA, MEJOR.
BASICAMENTE SIEMPRE ARRANCO CON LÁPIZ, Y DESPUÉS CON EL PINCEL, TINTA CHINA. DESPUÉS LO ESCANEO Y LO RETOCO MÍNIMAMENTE CON EL PHOTOSHOP. TRATO DE NO METERLE DEMASIADO RETOQUE DIGITAL, DIGAMOS QUE, MÁS QUE CONTRASTARLO, BORRAR MANCHAS, O CORREGIR ALGÚN ERROR QUE NO HAYA PODIDO CORREGIR A MANO, PERO LA IDEA ES QUE SALGA LO MAS PARECIDO AL ORIGINAL...
10ch10c- Y cuáles son los libros donde hasta el momento publicaste tus dibujos?
EN FORMATO LIBRO:
"VOMITINTA", V/A DIBUJANTES DE ARGENTINA Y CHILE.
"PUNK ROCK Y TINTA CHINA",
"PUNK Y SUS DERIVADOS".
Y COLABORÉ CON ILUSTRACIONES EN:
"EN LA CANCHA SE VEN LOS PINGOS"
"LOS NUEVOS COMPADRITOS" DE FERNANDO PRIM.
"LA MITAD QUE NO RECUERDO"
"ROCKEROS" DE MARIANO LUDUEÑA.
"CONCEPTO DE AUSENCIA PRESENTE" DE EMILY GAMES.
OSEA, EN ÉSTOS 8 LIBROS.
EN GENERAL SIEMPRE USO LAS HOJAS A4, ÉSE SERÍA EL TAMAÑO. EL PAPEL COMÚN DE 75GRS-85GRS. OSEA USO EL PRIMERO QUE ENCUENTRO, SI ES BLANCA LA HOJA, MEJOR.
BASICAMENTE SIEMPRE ARRANCO CON LÁPIZ, Y DESPUÉS CON EL PINCEL, TINTA CHINA. DESPUÉS LO ESCANEO Y LO RETOCO MÍNIMAMENTE CON EL PHOTOSHOP. TRATO DE NO METERLE DEMASIADO RETOQUE DIGITAL, DIGAMOS QUE, MÁS QUE CONTRASTARLO, BORRAR MANCHAS, O CORREGIR ALGÚN ERROR QUE NO HAYA PODIDO CORREGIR A MANO, PERO LA IDEA ES QUE SALGA LO MAS PARECIDO AL ORIGINAL...
10ch10c- Y cuáles son los libros donde hasta el momento publicaste tus dibujos?
EN FORMATO LIBRO:
"VOMITINTA", V/A DIBUJANTES DE ARGENTINA Y CHILE.
"PUNK ROCK Y TINTA CHINA",
"PUNK Y SUS DERIVADOS".
Y COLABORÉ CON ILUSTRACIONES EN:
"EN LA CANCHA SE VEN LOS PINGOS"
"LOS NUEVOS COMPADRITOS" DE FERNANDO PRIM.
"LA MITAD QUE NO RECUERDO"
"ROCKEROS" DE MARIANO LUDUEÑA.
"CONCEPTO DE AUSENCIA PRESENTE" DE EMILY GAMES.
OSEA, EN ÉSTOS 8 LIBROS.
10ch10c- Nos conocimos en Buenos Aires hace 25 años en un ensayo de tu banda NOGAL, también habias editado el primer número del fanzine "Buenos Aires Desorden". Mucho tiempo pasó desde entonces. No sólo hiciste el primer número ni fué tu única banda. Contame tus experiencias y como desarrollaste tu vida en ambas facetas.
CON "BS.AS.DESORDEN" ARRANQUÉ A MITAD DE 1993 Y YA VOY POR EL #24, LA IDEA ESRA SACAR UN NÚMERO ESPECIAL POR LOS 25 AÑOS EN EL 2018, PERO POR RAZONES DE $$$ FUÉ IMPOSIBLE, TAMBIÉN PORQUE QUERÍA SACAR EL VOLÚMEN #2 DEL LIBRO "PUNKROCK Y TINTA CHINA", Y TAMPOCO FUÉ POSIBLE.
EN CUÁNTO A LAS BANDAS, MI PRIMER ACERCAMIENTO FUÉ CON "MASACRE EN EL AUTOCINE" EN 1991, CONTINUAMOS CASI LOS MISMOS INTEGRANTES CON "BS.AS.DESORDEN" EL MISMO NOMBRE QUE EL 'ZINE PERO YO SÓLO LO EDITABA.
LUEGO "NOGAL", CREO QUE YA ERA EL AÑO 1995. UN CORTO PERÍODO EN "KLUB 699"...A FINES DE 1996 ENTRO A "ÁCIDOS POPULARES" QUE ES CON LA QUE AÚN SIGO, EN EL '97 TAMBIÉN TOQUÉ EN LOS INICIOS DE "TERROR Y MISERIA" Y EN "SOPA DE GARRÓN" CON LOS CUÁLES SEGUIMOS TOCANDO AUNQUE "EL PANKE" EDTABA VIVIENDO EN EL EXTERIOR Y AHORA EN SANTA FÉ. OSEA, SIEMPRE HAY GRANDES KILÓMETROS DE DISTANCIA ENTRE NOSOTROS Y SE COMPLICA JUNTARNOS.
10ch10c- Osea que tocas en bandas Punks, editas fanzines, libros, participas con tus colaboraciones, y tambien se que te iniciaste en el arte del tatuaje. Que tal te sentis tatuando? Y antes dijiste que hacias otras cosas (dibujos), contame más.
HACE AÑOS QUE DIVERSOS TATUADORES ME OFRECÍAN ENSEÑARME Y ME INCITABAN A QUE EMPICE, PERO FUERON LXS AMIGXS DE "BARRAKUDA TATOO" (BS.AS) QUIÉNES ME DIERON UNA MÁQUINA EN LA MANO Y ME AYUDARON A TOMAR LA DEDICIÓN. ME SIENTO CÓMODO TATUANDO, SOBRETODO CUÁNDO SON MIS PRÓPIOS DISEÑOS. EN CIERTA FORMA LO VEO COMO UNA PROLONGACIÓN DE MIS TRABAJOS, SEAN EN PAPEL, EN PAREDES Y TAMBIÈN EN BRAZOS-PIERNAS!
10ch10c- Si yo te entiendo, me la paso dibujando, pero plasmar un diseño en piel es genial, sobretodo por ese vinculo que se crea con la otra persona. Justo hoy vi en tu perfil de Facebook una de las fotos mas buenas en Kyoto, de esas que sacan quienes tienen tu libro, aveces pienso: es gente que viaja y se lleva tu libro para hacerse una foto? Me pregunto en cuantos paises habra estado y que buena idea!!!...
SI!! CADA VEZ QUE SÉ QUE ALGUIEN VIAJA
Y SÉ QUE TIENE MI LIBRO, LES PIDO QUE ME MANDEN FOTOS...HAY DE DESTINOS "REMOTOS", DE CASI TODO EL MUNDO...ME ESTARÍA FALTANDO ÁFRICA PARA COMPLETAR TODOS LOS CONTINENTES!...SI LLEGÁS A CRUZAR A MARRUECOS TENDRAS QUE MANDAR FOTOS ALGUNAS!
10ch10c- Uhhhh...no tengo ni un libro tuyo, quedaron en el bar Radical Roots. Hace dos años estuve en Cabo Verde, hubiese estado bueno una foto desde allí.
UHH! CABO VERDE HUBIERA RE DADO!
10ch10c- Che, y alguna vez tuviste problemas legales o con la yuta por tus dibujos?
PROBLEMAS "LEGALES" NO.
IDIOTAS OFENDIDOS YA HUBIERON ALGUNOS CASOS AISLADOS.
CON "BS.AS.DESORDEN" ARRANQUÉ A MITAD DE 1993 Y YA VOY POR EL #24, LA IDEA ESRA SACAR UN NÚMERO ESPECIAL POR LOS 25 AÑOS EN EL 2018, PERO POR RAZONES DE $$$ FUÉ IMPOSIBLE, TAMBIÉN PORQUE QUERÍA SACAR EL VOLÚMEN #2 DEL LIBRO "PUNKROCK Y TINTA CHINA", Y TAMPOCO FUÉ POSIBLE.
EN CUÁNTO A LAS BANDAS, MI PRIMER ACERCAMIENTO FUÉ CON "MASACRE EN EL AUTOCINE" EN 1991, CONTINUAMOS CASI LOS MISMOS INTEGRANTES CON "BS.AS.DESORDEN" EL MISMO NOMBRE QUE EL 'ZINE PERO YO SÓLO LO EDITABA.
LUEGO "NOGAL", CREO QUE YA ERA EL AÑO 1995. UN CORTO PERÍODO EN "KLUB 699"...A FINES DE 1996 ENTRO A "ÁCIDOS POPULARES" QUE ES CON LA QUE AÚN SIGO, EN EL '97 TAMBIÉN TOQUÉ EN LOS INICIOS DE "TERROR Y MISERIA" Y EN "SOPA DE GARRÓN" CON LOS CUÁLES SEGUIMOS TOCANDO AUNQUE "EL PANKE" EDTABA VIVIENDO EN EL EXTERIOR Y AHORA EN SANTA FÉ. OSEA, SIEMPRE HAY GRANDES KILÓMETROS DE DISTANCIA ENTRE NOSOTROS Y SE COMPLICA JUNTARNOS.
10ch10c- Osea que tocas en bandas Punks, editas fanzines, libros, participas con tus colaboraciones, y tambien se que te iniciaste en el arte del tatuaje. Que tal te sentis tatuando? Y antes dijiste que hacias otras cosas (dibujos), contame más.
HACE AÑOS QUE DIVERSOS TATUADORES ME OFRECÍAN ENSEÑARME Y ME INCITABAN A QUE EMPICE, PERO FUERON LXS AMIGXS DE "BARRAKUDA TATOO" (BS.AS) QUIÉNES ME DIERON UNA MÁQUINA EN LA MANO Y ME AYUDARON A TOMAR LA DEDICIÓN. ME SIENTO CÓMODO TATUANDO, SOBRETODO CUÁNDO SON MIS PRÓPIOS DISEÑOS. EN CIERTA FORMA LO VEO COMO UNA PROLONGACIÓN DE MIS TRABAJOS, SEAN EN PAPEL, EN PAREDES Y TAMBIÈN EN BRAZOS-PIERNAS!
10ch10c- Si yo te entiendo, me la paso dibujando, pero plasmar un diseño en piel es genial, sobretodo por ese vinculo que se crea con la otra persona. Justo hoy vi en tu perfil de Facebook una de las fotos mas buenas en Kyoto, de esas que sacan quienes tienen tu libro, aveces pienso: es gente que viaja y se lleva tu libro para hacerse una foto? Me pregunto en cuantos paises habra estado y que buena idea!!!...
SI!! CADA VEZ QUE SÉ QUE ALGUIEN VIAJA
Y SÉ QUE TIENE MI LIBRO, LES PIDO QUE ME MANDEN FOTOS...HAY DE DESTINOS "REMOTOS", DE CASI TODO EL MUNDO...ME ESTARÍA FALTANDO ÁFRICA PARA COMPLETAR TODOS LOS CONTINENTES!...SI LLEGÁS A CRUZAR A MARRUECOS TENDRAS QUE MANDAR FOTOS ALGUNAS!
10ch10c- Uhhhh...no tengo ni un libro tuyo, quedaron en el bar Radical Roots. Hace dos años estuve en Cabo Verde, hubiese estado bueno una foto desde allí.
UHH! CABO VERDE HUBIERA RE DADO!
10ch10c- Che, y alguna vez tuviste problemas legales o con la yuta por tus dibujos?
PROBLEMAS "LEGALES" NO.
IDIOTAS OFENDIDOS YA HUBIERON ALGUNOS CASOS AISLADOS.
10ch10c- Por cuales motivos luchas y por cuales estas en contra?
A FAVOR DE LA LIBRE EXPRESIÓN. Y EN CONTRA DEL AUTORITARISMO. MI LUCHA REAL ES COTIDIANA, TRATANDO DE VIVIR LO MAS ACORDE A LO QUE PIENSO.
10ch10c- Estar comprimetido ante un tipo de comics con textos reinvindicativos o slogans delatan una ideologia en vos? Sos un idealista quizas?
NO ME CONSIDERO UN IDEALISTA, AUNQUE TRATO DE APLICAR LAS IDEAS LIBERTARIAS EN MI COTIDIANO, Y TAMBIÉN INTENTO PROMOVERLAS DESDE MIS DIBUJOS.
MIS TRABAJOS NO NECESARIAMENTE ESTÁN "COMPROMETIDOS" CON ESTAS IDEAS, MAS ALLÁ DE QUE ES LO QUE GENERALMENTE MUESTRO VÍA REDES SOCIALES. LOS COMICS Y/O ILUSTRACIONES SON UN MÉTODO BASTANTE EFECTIVO DE PROPAGANDA POLÍTICA. ME ATREVO A DECIR QUE TIENEN MÁS ALCANCE QUE CUALQUIER TEXTO.
10ch10c- Una imagen vale mas que mil palabras!
DE UNA!
10ch10c- Dentro del Universo de la ilustracion han habido y seguiran habiendo nuevas tecnicas, personajes y dibujantes. Cuáles son aquellos que te asombran o son dignos de tu admiracion?
TE TIRO LOS PRIMEROS QUE SE ME VIENEN A LA MENTE...C.HARPER...AZAGRA...R.CRUMB.
ANGELI DE BRASIL...CHARLES BURNS DE USA...HAY MILES!
A FAVOR DE LA LIBRE EXPRESIÓN. Y EN CONTRA DEL AUTORITARISMO. MI LUCHA REAL ES COTIDIANA, TRATANDO DE VIVIR LO MAS ACORDE A LO QUE PIENSO.
10ch10c- Estar comprimetido ante un tipo de comics con textos reinvindicativos o slogans delatan una ideologia en vos? Sos un idealista quizas?
NO ME CONSIDERO UN IDEALISTA, AUNQUE TRATO DE APLICAR LAS IDEAS LIBERTARIAS EN MI COTIDIANO, Y TAMBIÉN INTENTO PROMOVERLAS DESDE MIS DIBUJOS.
MIS TRABAJOS NO NECESARIAMENTE ESTÁN "COMPROMETIDOS" CON ESTAS IDEAS, MAS ALLÁ DE QUE ES LO QUE GENERALMENTE MUESTRO VÍA REDES SOCIALES. LOS COMICS Y/O ILUSTRACIONES SON UN MÉTODO BASTANTE EFECTIVO DE PROPAGANDA POLÍTICA. ME ATREVO A DECIR QUE TIENEN MÁS ALCANCE QUE CUALQUIER TEXTO.
10ch10c- Una imagen vale mas que mil palabras!
DE UNA!
10ch10c- Dentro del Universo de la ilustracion han habido y seguiran habiendo nuevas tecnicas, personajes y dibujantes. Cuáles son aquellos que te asombran o son dignos de tu admiracion?
TE TIRO LOS PRIMEROS QUE SE ME VIENEN A LA MENTE...C.HARPER...AZAGRA...R.CRUMB.
ANGELI DE BRASIL...CHARLES BURNS DE USA...HAY MILES!
10ch10c- sí, me lo puedo imaginar, al igual que las bandas tambien habrian muchas que se te escaparían, pero cuáles estan en la banda sonora de tu vida?
LA BANDA SONORA VA VARIANDO, PERO TE NOMBRO LAS QUE ME GUSTAN DE TODA LA VIDA Y YA NO HAY VUELTA ATRÁS YA QUE O ESTÁN MUERTOS O YA NO EXISTEN COMO BANDA...
"THE CLASH" Y TODO LO QUE HICIERON SUS INTEGRANTES DESPUÉS. "BOB MARLEY", "MISFITS"ERA "DANZIG", "COCK SPARRER"... DESPUÉS VIENEN MILES MAS COMO "PARTISANS, BLITZ, ESKORBUTO, KORTATU, SOCIAL DISTORTION, DISCHARGE, KING TUBBY, KING STITT, LEE PERRY, BUDDY HOLLY... MILES LA VERDAD.
LA BANDA SONORA VA VARIANDO, PERO TE NOMBRO LAS QUE ME GUSTAN DE TODA LA VIDA Y YA NO HAY VUELTA ATRÁS YA QUE O ESTÁN MUERTOS O YA NO EXISTEN COMO BANDA...
"THE CLASH" Y TODO LO QUE HICIERON SUS INTEGRANTES DESPUÉS. "BOB MARLEY", "MISFITS"ERA "DANZIG", "COCK SPARRER"... DESPUÉS VIENEN MILES MAS COMO "PARTISANS, BLITZ, ESKORBUTO, KORTATU, SOCIAL DISTORTION, DISCHARGE, KING TUBBY, KING STITT, LEE PERRY, BUDDY HOLLY... MILES LA VERDAD.
10ch10c- en tus viajes por Argentina y fuera de ella hiciste varias notas en "Bs.AsDesorden", cuales fueron las que nunca te vas a olvidar?
LO QUE HICE FUERA DE ARGENTINA SERÍAN 2 NÚMEROS DEL FANZINE, EL "DF DISMADRE" QUE SERÍA EL "BS.ASDESORDEN" #15 EDITADO EN MÉXICO DF. AHÍ HICE UNA PRIMER TIRADA DE 1000 COPIAS, LUEGO LO REEDITÉ EN BS.AS. Y EL NÚMERO 17 QUE FUÉ UN NÚMERO ESPECIAL ESCRITO TODO EN PORTUGUES, HECHO EN CURITIBA, BRASIL. DE ÉSTE HICE MUY POCAS COPIAS...CON EL TIEMPO LAS NOTAS A BANDAS U OTROS TEMAS FUERON DESAPARECIENDO DEL ZINE DANDOLE MAS IMPORTANCIA A LA PARTE GRAFICA O DIBUJOS...AHÍ ADQUIRIÓ REALMENTE SU PERSONALIDAD, CREO YO.
10ch10c- viendo tus fanzines, libros y discos me pregunto varias cosas acerca del " arte de tapas" que venis haciendo hasta hoy. Poneme al dia un poco con respecto a este tema.
El "arte de tapa" o dibujos a pedido de distintas bandas viene desde el primer momento en que involucre en esto que llaman "escena"..., arranque diseñando los flyers de los grupos amigos del barrio ( La Boca/ Bs.As.), estas bandas actualmente son consideradas clasicas del genero HC (Diferentes Acitudes Juveniles / B.o.d / No Demuestra Interes...etc), algunos flyers y el logo para el sello Mentes Abiertas y ya arte de tapa propiamente dicho o logos/diseños empezo poco tiempo despues. Creo que recien con mi primer libro en la calle (Punkrock y tinta china) la gente empezo a tenerme en cuenta, valorar lo que hago (o sea, entender que esto es un TRABAJO y debia recibir algo a cambio, sea $$$ o algo que me interese...) y ahi empezaron a llamarme para pedirme trabajos para sus proyectos.
Te nombro solo algunas bandas con las que ya trabaje: D.A.J. (flyers y arte de la reedicion de sus cds), Rancho Aparte/PendorchoBaboso (arte de tapa de su CD split)
Quinteto Negro La Boca (Tango anarquista, flyers) 2 Minutos (diseño de poster x sus 25 años, flyers varios) Prisioneros verdes (diseño para remeras, tambien usaron dibujos mios en el insert de su CD),Los Crudos (diseño de poster en su gira x el sur ) Cadena Perpetua, Tango 14, Old Skulls, Los Verdaderos, El Fuego y la palabra, Gatillo Facil, Tam y Aversion Social de Chile, Ruin de Mexico... hay cantidad de bandas y sellos con los que hicimos trabajos en conjunto!
10ch10c- si Max Vadala no hubiese conocido el Punk y no sabria dibujar como seria su vida?
Simplemente NO me imagino mi vida de otra manera, dibujar lo hago desde que tengo uso de conciencia, calculo que "aprendi" a dibujar antes que hablar o a escribir... y hasta el dia de hoy me resulta mas facil comunicarme con imagenes que con palabras. Con respecto al punk,obtuve mis primeros k7 en 1987 (tenia 11 años ahi), ya para 1990 estabamos planendo lo que fue mi primer banda -Massacre en el autocine- y en 1993 arrancaba con el fanzine. Hoy 30 años despues, seria imposible pensar mi vida ajena a esto.simplemente NO me imagino mi vida de otra manera, dibujar lo hago desde que tengo uso de conciencia, calculo que "aprendi" a dibujar antes que hablar o a escribir... y hasta el dia de hoy me resulta mas facil comunicarme con imagenes que con palabras. Con respecto al punk,obtuve mis primeros k7 en 1987 (tenia 11 años ahi), ya para 1990 estabamos planendo lo que fue mi primer banda -Massacre en el autocine- y en 1993 arrancaba con el fanzine. Hoy 30 años despues, seria imposible pensar mi vida ajena a esto.
Y hasta aca la primera parte de la entrevista con el colega Max. A continuacion y mediante unas imagenes que me cede, deja entrever su 'modo operandis' a la hora de elaboracion de un diseño especial para este artículo. Se agradece mucho el trabajo desinteresado por parte de una persona que debe utilizar su tiempo en horas de trabajo, para colaborar con este blog.
1ro. Busqueda y seleccion de informacion e imagenes que sirvan de inspiracion a la hora de crear una ilustracion.
2do. Max comienza a dibujar con tinta en un folio en blanco.
LO QUE HICE FUERA DE ARGENTINA SERÍAN 2 NÚMEROS DEL FANZINE, EL "DF DISMADRE" QUE SERÍA EL "BS.ASDESORDEN" #15 EDITADO EN MÉXICO DF. AHÍ HICE UNA PRIMER TIRADA DE 1000 COPIAS, LUEGO LO REEDITÉ EN BS.AS. Y EL NÚMERO 17 QUE FUÉ UN NÚMERO ESPECIAL ESCRITO TODO EN PORTUGUES, HECHO EN CURITIBA, BRASIL. DE ÉSTE HICE MUY POCAS COPIAS...CON EL TIEMPO LAS NOTAS A BANDAS U OTROS TEMAS FUERON DESAPARECIENDO DEL ZINE DANDOLE MAS IMPORTANCIA A LA PARTE GRAFICA O DIBUJOS...AHÍ ADQUIRIÓ REALMENTE SU PERSONALIDAD, CREO YO.
10ch10c- viendo tus fanzines, libros y discos me pregunto varias cosas acerca del " arte de tapas" que venis haciendo hasta hoy. Poneme al dia un poco con respecto a este tema.
El "arte de tapa" o dibujos a pedido de distintas bandas viene desde el primer momento en que involucre en esto que llaman "escena"..., arranque diseñando los flyers de los grupos amigos del barrio ( La Boca/ Bs.As.), estas bandas actualmente son consideradas clasicas del genero HC (Diferentes Acitudes Juveniles / B.o.d / No Demuestra Interes...etc), algunos flyers y el logo para el sello Mentes Abiertas y ya arte de tapa propiamente dicho o logos/diseños empezo poco tiempo despues. Creo que recien con mi primer libro en la calle (Punkrock y tinta china) la gente empezo a tenerme en cuenta, valorar lo que hago (o sea, entender que esto es un TRABAJO y debia recibir algo a cambio, sea $$$ o algo que me interese...) y ahi empezaron a llamarme para pedirme trabajos para sus proyectos.
Te nombro solo algunas bandas con las que ya trabaje: D.A.J. (flyers y arte de la reedicion de sus cds), Rancho Aparte/PendorchoBaboso (arte de tapa de su CD split)
Quinteto Negro La Boca (Tango anarquista, flyers) 2 Minutos (diseño de poster x sus 25 años, flyers varios) Prisioneros verdes (diseño para remeras, tambien usaron dibujos mios en el insert de su CD),Los Crudos (diseño de poster en su gira x el sur ) Cadena Perpetua, Tango 14, Old Skulls, Los Verdaderos, El Fuego y la palabra, Gatillo Facil, Tam y Aversion Social de Chile, Ruin de Mexico... hay cantidad de bandas y sellos con los que hicimos trabajos en conjunto!
10ch10c- si Max Vadala no hubiese conocido el Punk y no sabria dibujar como seria su vida?
Simplemente NO me imagino mi vida de otra manera, dibujar lo hago desde que tengo uso de conciencia, calculo que "aprendi" a dibujar antes que hablar o a escribir... y hasta el dia de hoy me resulta mas facil comunicarme con imagenes que con palabras. Con respecto al punk,obtuve mis primeros k7 en 1987 (tenia 11 años ahi), ya para 1990 estabamos planendo lo que fue mi primer banda -Massacre en el autocine- y en 1993 arrancaba con el fanzine. Hoy 30 años despues, seria imposible pensar mi vida ajena a esto.simplemente NO me imagino mi vida de otra manera, dibujar lo hago desde que tengo uso de conciencia, calculo que "aprendi" a dibujar antes que hablar o a escribir... y hasta el dia de hoy me resulta mas facil comunicarme con imagenes que con palabras. Con respecto al punk,obtuve mis primeros k7 en 1987 (tenia 11 años ahi), ya para 1990 estabamos planendo lo que fue mi primer banda -Massacre en el autocine- y en 1993 arrancaba con el fanzine. Hoy 30 años despues, seria imposible pensar mi vida ajena a esto.
Y hasta aca la primera parte de la entrevista con el colega Max. A continuacion y mediante unas imagenes que me cede, deja entrever su 'modo operandis' a la hora de elaboracion de un diseño especial para este artículo. Se agradece mucho el trabajo desinteresado por parte de una persona que debe utilizar su tiempo en horas de trabajo, para colaborar con este blog.
1ro. Busqueda y seleccion de informacion e imagenes que sirvan de inspiracion a la hora de crear una ilustracion.
2do. Max comienza a dibujar con tinta en un folio en blanco.
3ro. Funde las ideas recabadas con su arte imaginativo para tener una ideal general de como sera el trabajo finalizado.
4to. Max retoca lo menos posible su dibujo en Photoshop para darle un acabado profesional.
Muestra virtual Bs.As.Desorden de Max Vadala 2020
sábado, 15 de agosto de 2020
BS AS DESORDEN
Hace un tiempo atrás hicimos esta entrevista al colega Max Vadala, la entrevista resulto muy buena y entretenida, fue uno de los posteos mas visitados en los últimos meses. Al margen de eso Max tiene una larga trayectoria, por eso en varios medios, fanzines, webzines les envian preguntas, en este caso no se de donde le hicieron una entrevista y decidió enviar la entrevista para que lo lean en ingles, acá paso a pegar la entrevista en ingles para que pueda llegar a otros destinos. Creo que la traducción la hizo Flower Power. Yo no se ingles, veridificul dijo Tevez.
Max Vadala is an old colleague of mine who has released one of the most distinctive fanzines of the local HC/Punk scene. He is well-known for his unique style . With just having a look at one of his designs you can tell right away that it belongs to him,it has its imprint, no shadow of a doubt. Not all zines display such a unmistakable stamp. His designs and drawings have travelled the world and the seven seas and have been imprinted on record covers, fanzines, patches, T-shirts, band logos etc etc… Just a quick glance and you will get to know who is behind all this.
Max answered a few old school questions from the Argentinian Northwest, where he is currently living . He will talk about his beginnings in punk up to date.
-I imagine your first approach to pencil and paper was when you were a child . The question is : what made you kept developing your talent years later; family background or just your sheer interest?
I don’t think it is related to family background . I’ve always loved drawing and it was easy-peasy for me. My drawing teacher in primary school envisioned this. He advised me not to ever stop doing it. (He is Omar Gasparini, search for what he does, he’s very good)
My first secondary school was based on advertising drawing. It was not exactly what I was looking for - this was more technique-oriented . Finally I was expelled for misbehaviour and absentism. Because of that I ended up in the Fine Arts school , which , though not ideal, over time I realized it was worth attending . (I was also expelled from there, but that’s another story!)
How did you first approach punk rock? Which were the first fanzines you laid your hand on? When was that?
I first approached punk thanks to my neighbourhood friends in Catalinas Sur/La Boca. I lived there for my first 18 years.
There I recorded my first cassettes. We were skaters-punks, HC-skinheads.
Out of this lot, a few bands arose which are now classic cult bands such as D.A.J-B.O.D-ALTERNATIVA POSITIVA, NO DEMUESTRA INTERES (in the latter three of its members were from Wilde - in the Southern area of the province, though Adrian, its frontman was from La Boca.
The first‘zine I remember buying was RESISTENCIA (Resistence). It visually impacted me. Shortly afterwards I was at PUESTO REBELION ( Rebellion stand) buying all zines from those times.
It was ‘88/’89 I guess.
-How did you kick off with Bs As Desorden (BA Disorder)? What message did you want to convey back then. How has it evolved , how did it finally shape its own identity, the peculiarity of your own drawings and style?
We kicked off with Bs As Desorden in mid-1993 along with Pichón -just the first issue with hime as he then carried on with his own fanzine called CIVILIZACIÓN VIOLENTA (Violent Civilization).
The idea was sharing info that we had in fanzines and magazines from other countries by translating articles, spreading the word ,etc.
Over time the drawings became stronger than the fanzine proper to the extent that there was very little text in the latest fanzine issues.
Until issue 6 it was basically a classic zine (musik / social articles/reviews-flyers). Issue 7, as far as I can remember, was a comic special -it included different artists, most of them connected to LAPICES EN LUTXA (Struggling pencils)
From that point onwards, the fanzine would only include illustrations and comics , mostly of my own authorship.
-Beyond the chaotic punk aesthetics and fanzines what punk record covers or artists you discovered during your early career and who are those nowadays?
There were different stages. There were some covers that caused great impact onto me and later on I found out about their authors.e.g PUSHEAD, Misfit’s EARTH A.D (Mad Marc Rude), Napalm Death’s SCUM de , Acussed’s RETURN OF MARTHA SPLATTERHEAD , to name but a few. They are drawings I like even better than the bands they represent! A pic, a collage , photomontage... Dead Kennedys (Winston Smith), Crass (Gee Vaucher), the compilation PUNK & DISORDERLY 3.
There are thousands , these are the first to come to my mind.
Pencillers and artists are also several . Comics artists and painters of all times.
Since I’ve had Internet I’ve discovered brilliant stuff.
Everything has a direct or indirect influence on me.
* an addition: Blogspot by Sombra (No hay Salida zine/ Kontra la pare’ - Uruguay) He’s been doing thorough research on artistic and punk (really not to be missed!) www.10charruas10crestas.blogspot.com
-How many issues has Bs As Desorden released? How many shared issues have you had? Can you tell us a bit about Lápices en Lutxa (Struggling Pencils)?
For the time being (winter 2019) there are 24 issues edited . There were a few shared issues along with En la cancha se ven los pingos (The proof of the pudding is in the eating), Alto & Klaro (High & Clear) , Krea Desorden (Kreate Disorder) from Ecuador and Comunidad Punk (Punk Community) from Mexico.
Lápices en Lutxa was a collective/ illustrators’ partnership (all of them based in Spain, and myself in Argentina). I suggested them we should have Lápices en Lutxa BA, as I was not “officially” part of Lápices en Lutxa Spain. Unfortunately I couldn't manage to find committed people who would engage in the BA branch.
The idea revolved around comics with a “message”. Its goal was spreading libertarian ideas and views by means of illustrations
The group edited a very good zine called Por amor al arte (For the sake of Art) which I distributed here in Argentina. And they distroed there issues of my zine. After a while the collective vanished, though you can still have a look at the pieces of work on the web by some of its members such as Kalvellido, Salamanca, Manolito Rastaman. In my opinion they are to be highlighted.
Has your work been plagiarized? Has anybody versioned any of your pieces? If so, have you seen any of them?
I regard plagiarism , or- better worded-theft, the use of illustrations without authorization or when seeking profit. I remember there was a shop in BA. I was asked to screenprint 10 T-shirts with the “Crazy Cat” design. Then I learnt they T-shirts had been made through sublimation printing (faster and cheaper) without my consent. The shop closed down less than a year later. He might have moved or he was cursed due to his mischief.
There are those who use my drawings for silk-screen printing and they don’t let me know. But as they are usually DIY punk projects I don’t mind at all. I know everything I publish in the zine or on the Web will be re-used sooner or later...
There are also people that send me pics of my modified drawings in tattoos, murals, sculptures etc. That would be some sort of “ egobooster”, as I see there are other people who enjoy creating a new version of my designs, in the same way I do with other people’s designs.
As an example, I was sent -not a long time ago- a pic from Bariloche of a tattoo with one of my designs (HC Chapulin Colorado). Prior to this, I was asked for permission . Also I saw that Ratos de Porao’s ( Sewage rats) singer also posted my version of Crucified by the System , but he didn’t even mention my name! You can find anything both in the real and in the virtual world.
-Which formats were your illustrations edited in? (Leaving aside your own-edited fanzines and books).
The most exotic format was a wooden toy for very young children, crafted by a fanzine-fellow called Beto Beles - Subsuelo Insurgente zine ( Insurgent Underground zine) from Venezuela. A sculpure of the logo toy which I designed for the Municomio (Grand Bourg/BA). Also some skull flower crafted in metal by Kasa Noise’s punky (Paso del Rey/BA)... There are also murals/tattoos/ screenprinting stuff, other zines. I had some other proposals about animation but for now this has failed to materialize.
-We know this must be tough… but choose three of your drawings you regard as classic and which have your imprint.
As the Punk Rock and Indian Ink’s intro goes: I consider “classic” or those that represent me the following: How do you destroy culture? With torture. Another one is Punk is no violence. Anyway, any of the pieces I’ve created over the last ten years are pretty “identifiable”.
-Punk rock and Indian ink has already been published for several years now and has been reprinted twice. Tell us a little about this first experience . Did you think it would reach so many faraway spots on the planet?
Punkrock and tinta china has 4 re-editions ( 3 in Argentina and one in Mexico). The truth is that I never thought about editing it in book format. I imagined it as something very expensive and complicated. It was on Ale Natural's insistence (Tren en Movimiento publiser) who persuaded me. It was a one-year work . I would go to his place by train and bicycle, I would choose the material, scan-diagram, make print tests... a tedious work . That experience changed my reality as a "penciller" quite a lot. From the first book many people began to take my work "seriously". Articles were published in several mass media. I was invited to some exhibitions abroad. I got several requests to make art cover-flyers-designs for T-shirts ... and to date I continue working on this.
Little by little, I started "profiting” from my drawings in exchange for my time and energy and creativity. However, even today there are people who write to me believing that I should make them drawings for FREE just because they are “also punks"... Although this kind of attitude is, luckily, disappearing from my way.
I always underline that I ‘m not seeking $$ in Exchange for my work, I also accept barter for... but most people find it harsh to get rid of the capitalist logic.
Argentinian bands are understanding that cover art is a core part of the message they convey, I calculate that if it wasn't for our critical economic scenario, more people would come to me asking for my work.
My book was the first Tren en Movimiento release (nowadays TM is one of the most renowned alternative publishers here in Argentina). It was also my first published book!
The book reached many spots. " The book around the world" arose from that idea. It would be an album with photos friends are sending me from all over the world. Several photos from exotic places. My favourite one is in a Nepalese village where my friend Cecy gathered several local women for the pic- Cecy is the main collaborator. She has sent pics in Malaysia, Nepal, Indonesia, Philippines, Cambodia...etc!) African lands will also appear.
-The second edition is coming soon and the first one will be reedited in Portugal, right? Let's talk a little bit about this, how the reedition was conceived and how you are selecting material for this second edition.
The idea is to include material from 2010 to date (vol. 1 goes from 93 to 2010, which is when we finished it). As I said before, after the 1st book I got a lot of work on demand ( from bands mostly), so I have a lot of material!... The Portuguese edition was thought to be presented in different book-related events both in Portugal and Galicia.
-PUNK Y DERIVADOS (Punk and byproducts) was a section that was gaining importance in the zine, and we as readers were looking forward to a new issue so that we could read the stories. How was the process and how it ends up being published in book format.
Punk y derivados was a drawing that came out in a Spanish zine in the 90's. It depicted the evolution or different branches of punk, sxe-oi-crossover-goths-etc... I made a re-version of the punk family tree. In thefollowing issue I released a drawing where I ironically highlighted some punk-skinhead attitudes back then.
In the next issue I told a tragicomic anecdote in a 2Minutos gig. At that point that zine section became permanent: real life stories or anecdotes related to punk experiences - as incredible as it sounds nowadays, before the Internet appeared, punks (and youngsters in general) used to meet up in the street,at corners, parks or squares. .. there I developed this "ability" or "magnet” with supernatural beings or human specimens that do not fit in ordinary social patterns.
This section, then , it became the most "expected" part by the Buenos Aires readers. When Ale Natural suggested me I should publish a book, I first thought of compiling all the stories of Punk y derivados but he suggested starting with only one drawing. Both formats worked, text and design! Currently there are friends translating it into English and Portuguese . We will re-edit it with both translations as soos as we can.
- Today it’s your own imprint your “trademark”. What new techniques have you been using , or resorting to, software etc? What’s your favourite drawing technique?
My technique is not quite farfetched, at the beginning I used to draw with microfibers, then I switched to the pen and Indian ink and at the moment I’m using brushes filled with water to make watercolors. I put Indian ink on them and then I scan them giving some digital retouches with photoshop like contrasting or re-assembling the elements. I try to show that they are "handmade" drawings with brushes and not with digital tools (though I don't rule out the use of digital tools in the future).
-Over all these years we’ve seen your art in several places, gigs, punk book fairs, etc. Where do you feel more comfortable in?
When I exhibit what I do, I always try to do it in the environment in which I have always moved (concerts/okupas/independent cultural centers/etc). I'm not “famous” and I don't have the Art contacts so I doubt very much that I'll be called from outside the punk communty... "Art" is like music: it's not about how good your stuff is but about what contacts you have or how much money you can invest to promote yourself.
My only manager and/or press agent IS MYSELF!
- How do you see the fanzine movement today? 5 fanzines and 5 bands to recommend?
There are still some zines, as I said before. The internet has changed everything, including the zines’ world. I'll name 3 that are fundamental and unique in their style: La Ponzoña (chaotic collages, punk art full of irony and criticism), Dekadencia Humana (must be the most ancient zine in Argentina). Many insights and writings from his editor and info related to the anarkopunk and political punk world) and En la cancha se ven los pingos (a typical fanzine which includes a mix of his editor's musical tastes -punk, Oi!, heavy, rock, social criticism, from a street view approach. No academic-philosophical researches. Stories about fictional characters based on the youth subcultures. These 3 zines named have their "book version" published by Tren en Movimiento.
As for bands the ones I like the most are: Responsables no Inscriptos (RNI), Qué Risa, Los Disckolos, KrestaMurti, Tango 14, Bokasucia... all of them are still playing and active and you can listen to them on the Internet.
-As a bonus track, let's talk a little about your musical side, Massacre en el Autocine was the first band you had, right? Tell us a bit about it. Your second band Acidos Populares. Tell us a little bit about this band since not all of its members them live in the same city. Tell us also about the experience of your solo album.
As regards my "musical side" let me tell you that I don't feel a MUSICIAN or even an ARTIST, I only use this as a means of expression, both with the guitar and with the brush I do "what comes out" (which is not always as I imagine it).
The band I played in was Massacre en el Autocine, I had no musical notion but I had already read the inspiring phrase that goes as follows: "In punkrock anyone can grab an instrument and make their own band!" . Music wise we were trying to make horror punk, I think this label didn't exist yet - 1992 . Our main influences were 45 Grave/Misfits/Undead, B films and classic horror literature (Poe-Lovecraft/etc.). The lyrics were written by Vicky (RIP), she read a lot and was very good at writing. it was a big loss, the first friend that was leaving me...
M.e.e.a became Bs.As. Desorden (same name as my zine, since we had a gig with CHIQUERO - where Esteban's brother, guitarplayer in B.A. Desorden. We didn't have a name, just some rehearsals plus 5 or 6 songs). The idea was to make Oi! or punkrock 77. There were 2 punks and 2 skinheads in the band.
Bs.As Desorden lasted for less than 2 years. Nogal appeared soon afterwards. It was made up of a frontgirl (Brenda, currently in Bloodparade). We all had diverse experience in bands: I.D.S., Espias Secretos, Fuerza Interna and those already named). The result of this all was a quite original punkrock band.
At the end of 1996 I joined Acidös Pöpulares, and jsut after that I joined Klub 699 ( I spent 1 year there, recorded 2 songs for a compilation and left) . we were already playing quite a lot with Acidös, everywhere: the capital city and Gran Buenos Aires...
Terror y Miseria was later formed. That was the time when anarkopunk was all the rage (1997). Many events, many people got together at Plaza Congreso’s fanzine fair. All Terror y Miseria members were actively engaged in the fair.
Muestra virtual Bs.As.Desorden de Max Vadala 2020
sábado, 15 de agosto de 2020
BS AS DESORDEN
Hace un tiempo atrás hicimos esta entrevista al colega Max Vadala, la entrevista resulto muy buena y entretenida, fue uno de los posteos mas visitados en los últimos meses. Al margen de eso Max tiene una larga trayectoria, por eso en varios medios, fanzines, webzines les envian preguntas, en este caso no se de donde le hicieron una entrevista y decidió enviar la entrevista para que lo lean en ingles, acá paso a pegar la entrevista en ingles para que pueda llegar a otros destinos. Creo que la traducción la hizo Flower Power. Yo no se ingles, veridificul dijo Tevez.
Max Vadala is an old colleague of mine who has released one of the most distinctive fanzines of the local HC/Punk scene. He is well-known for his unique style . With just having a look at one of his designs you can tell right away that it belongs to him,it has its imprint, no shadow of a doubt. Not all zines display such a unmistakable stamp. His designs and drawings have travelled the world and the seven seas and have been imprinted on record covers, fanzines, patches, T-shirts, band logos etc etc… Just a quick glance and you will get to know who is behind all this.
Max answered a few old school questions from the Argentinian Northwest, where he is currently living . He will talk about his beginnings in punk up to date.
-I imagine your first approach to pencil and paper was when you were a child . The question is : what made you kept developing your talent years later; family background or just your sheer interest?
I don’t think it is related to family background . I’ve always loved drawing and it was easy-peasy for me. My drawing teacher in primary school envisioned this. He advised me not to ever stop doing it. (He is Omar Gasparini, search for what he does, he’s very good)
My first secondary school was based on advertising drawing. It was not exactly what I was looking for - this was more technique-oriented . Finally I was expelled for misbehaviour and absentism. Because of that I ended up in the Fine Arts school , which , though not ideal, over time I realized it was worth attending . (I was also expelled from there, but that’s another story!)
How did you first approach punk rock? Which were the first fanzines you laid your hand on? When was that?
I first approached punk thanks to my neighbourhood friends in Catalinas Sur/La Boca. I lived there for my first 18 years.
There I recorded my first cassettes. We were skaters-punks, HC-skinheads.
Out of this lot, a few bands arose which are now classic cult bands such as D.A.J-B.O.D-ALTERNATIVA POSITIVA, NO DEMUESTRA INTERES (in the latter three of its members were from Wilde - in the Southern area of the province, though Adrian, its frontman was from La Boca.
The first‘zine I remember buying was RESISTENCIA (Resistence). It visually impacted me. Shortly afterwards I was at PUESTO REBELION ( Rebellion stand) buying all zines from those times.
It was ‘88/’89 I guess.
-How did you kick off with Bs As Desorden (BA Disorder)? What message did you want to convey back then. How has it evolved , how did it finally shape its own identity, the peculiarity of your own drawings and style?
We kicked off with Bs As Desorden in mid-1993 along with Pichón -just the first issue with hime as he then carried on with his own fanzine called CIVILIZACIÓN VIOLENTA (Violent Civilization).
The idea was sharing info that we had in fanzines and magazines from other countries by translating articles, spreading the word ,etc.
Over time the drawings became stronger than the fanzine proper to the extent that there was very little text in the latest fanzine issues.
Until issue 6 it was basically a classic zine (musik / social articles/reviews-flyers). Issue 7, as far as I can remember, was a comic special -it included different artists, most of them connected to LAPICES EN LUTXA (Struggling pencils)
From that point onwards, the fanzine would only include illustrations and comics , mostly of my own authorship.
-Beyond the chaotic punk aesthetics and fanzines what punk record covers or artists you discovered during your early career and who are those nowadays?
There were different stages. There were some covers that caused great impact onto me and later on I found out about their authors.e.g PUSHEAD, Misfit’s EARTH A.D (Mad Marc Rude), Napalm Death’s SCUM de , Acussed’s RETURN OF MARTHA SPLATTERHEAD , to name but a few. They are drawings I like even better than the bands they represent! A pic, a collage , photomontage... Dead Kennedys (Winston Smith), Crass (Gee Vaucher), the compilation PUNK & DISORDERLY 3.
There are thousands , these are the first to come to my mind.
Pencillers and artists are also several . Comics artists and painters of all times.
Since I’ve had Internet I’ve discovered brilliant stuff.
Everything has a direct or indirect influence on me.
* an addition: Blogspot by Sombra (No hay Salida zine/ Kontra la pare’ - Uruguay) He’s been doing thorough research on artistic and punk (really not to be missed!) www.10charruas10crestas.blogspot.com
-How many issues has Bs As Desorden released? How many shared issues have you had? Can you tell us a bit about Lápices en Lutxa (Struggling Pencils)?
For the time being (winter 2019) there are 24 issues edited . There were a few shared issues along with En la cancha se ven los pingos (The proof of the pudding is in the eating), Alto & Klaro (High & Clear) , Krea Desorden (Kreate Disorder) from Ecuador and Comunidad Punk (Punk Community) from Mexico.
Lápices en Lutxa was a collective/ illustrators’ partnership (all of them based in Spain, and myself in Argentina). I suggested them we should have Lápices en Lutxa BA, as I was not “officially” part of Lápices en Lutxa Spain. Unfortunately I couldn't manage to find committed people who would engage in the BA branch.
The idea revolved around comics with a “message”. Its goal was spreading libertarian ideas and views by means of illustrations
The group edited a very good zine called Por amor al arte (For the sake of Art) which I distributed here in Argentina. And they distroed there issues of my zine. After a while the collective vanished, though you can still have a look at the pieces of work on the web by some of its members such as Kalvellido, Salamanca, Manolito Rastaman. In my opinion they are to be highlighted.
Has your work been plagiarized? Has anybody versioned any of your pieces? If so, have you seen any of them?
I regard plagiarism , or- better worded-theft, the use of illustrations without authorization or when seeking profit. I remember there was a shop in BA. I was asked to screenprint 10 T-shirts with the “Crazy Cat” design. Then I learnt they T-shirts had been made through sublimation printing (faster and cheaper) without my consent. The shop closed down less than a year later. He might have moved or he was cursed due to his mischief.
There are those who use my drawings for silk-screen printing and they don’t let me know. But as they are usually DIY punk projects I don’t mind at all. I know everything I publish in the zine or on the Web will be re-used sooner or later...
There are also people that send me pics of my modified drawings in tattoos, murals, sculptures etc. That would be some sort of “ egobooster”, as I see there are other people who enjoy creating a new version of my designs, in the same way I do with other people’s designs.
As an example, I was sent -not a long time ago- a pic from Bariloche of a tattoo with one of my designs (HC Chapulin Colorado). Prior to this, I was asked for permission . Also I saw that Ratos de Porao’s ( Sewage rats) singer also posted my version of Crucified by the System , but he didn’t even mention my name! You can find anything both in the real and in the virtual world.
-Which formats were your illustrations edited in? (Leaving aside your own-edited fanzines and books).
The most exotic format was a wooden toy for very young children, crafted by a fanzine-fellow called Beto Beles - Subsuelo Insurgente zine ( Insurgent Underground zine) from Venezuela. A sculpure of the logo toy which I designed for the Municomio (Grand Bourg/BA). Also some skull flower crafted in metal by Kasa Noise’s punky (Paso del Rey/BA)... There are also murals/tattoos/ screenprinting stuff, other zines. I had some other proposals about animation but for now this has failed to materialize.
-We know this must be tough… but choose three of your drawings you regard as classic and which have your imprint.
As the Punk Rock and Indian Ink’s intro goes: I consider “classic” or those that represent me the following: How do you destroy culture? With torture. Another one is Punk is no violence. Anyway, any of the pieces I’ve created over the last ten years are pretty “identifiable”.
-Punk rock and Indian ink has already been published for several years now and has been reprinted twice. Tell us a little about this first experience . Did you think it would reach so many faraway spots on the planet?
Punkrock and tinta china has 4 re-editions ( 3 in Argentina and one in Mexico). The truth is that I never thought about editing it in book format. I imagined it as something very expensive and complicated. It was on Ale Natural's insistence (Tren en Movimiento publiser) who persuaded me. It was a one-year work . I would go to his place by train and bicycle, I would choose the material, scan-diagram, make print tests... a tedious work . That experience changed my reality as a "penciller" quite a lot. From the first book many people began to take my work "seriously". Articles were published in several mass media. I was invited to some exhibitions abroad. I got several requests to make art cover-flyers-designs for T-shirts ... and to date I continue working on this.
Little by little, I started "profiting” from my drawings in exchange for my time and energy and creativity. However, even today there are people who write to me believing that I should make them drawings for FREE just because they are “also punks"... Although this kind of attitude is, luckily, disappearing from my way.
I always underline that I ‘m not seeking $$ in Exchange for my work, I also accept barter for... but most people find it harsh to get rid of the capitalist logic.
Argentinian bands are understanding that cover art is a core part of the message they convey, I calculate that if it wasn't for our critical economic scenario, more people would come to me asking for my work.
My book was the first Tren en Movimiento release (nowadays TM is one of the most renowned alternative publishers here in Argentina). It was also my first published book!
The book reached many spots. " The book around the world" arose from that idea. It would be an album with photos friends are sending me from all over the world. Several photos from exotic places. My favourite one is in a Nepalese village where my friend Cecy gathered several local women for the pic- Cecy is the main collaborator. She has sent pics in Malaysia, Nepal, Indonesia, Philippines, Cambodia...etc!) African lands will also appear.
-The second edition is coming soon and the first one will be reedited in Portugal, right? Let's talk a little bit about this, how the reedition was conceived and how you are selecting material for this second edition.
The idea is to include material from 2010 to date (vol. 1 goes from 93 to 2010, which is when we finished it). As I said before, after the 1st book I got a lot of work on demand ( from bands mostly), so I have a lot of material!... The Portuguese edition was thought to be presented in different book-related events both in Portugal and Galicia.
-PUNK Y DERIVADOS (Punk and byproducts) was a section that was gaining importance in the zine, and we as readers were looking forward to a new issue so that we could read the stories. How was the process and how it ends up being published in book format.
Punk y derivados was a drawing that came out in a Spanish zine in the 90's. It depicted the evolution or different branches of punk, sxe-oi-crossover-goths-etc... I made a re-version of the punk family tree. In thefollowing issue I released a drawing where I ironically highlighted some punk-skinhead attitudes back then.
In the next issue I told a tragicomic anecdote in a 2Minutos gig. At that point that zine section became permanent: real life stories or anecdotes related to punk experiences - as incredible as it sounds nowadays, before the Internet appeared, punks (and youngsters in general) used to meet up in the street,at corners, parks or squares. .. there I developed this "ability" or "magnet” with supernatural beings or human specimens that do not fit in ordinary social patterns.
This section, then , it became the most "expected" part by the Buenos Aires readers. When Ale Natural suggested me I should publish a book, I first thought of compiling all the stories of Punk y derivados but he suggested starting with only one drawing. Both formats worked, text and design! Currently there are friends translating it into English and Portuguese . We will re-edit it with both translations as soos as we can.
- Today it’s your own imprint your “trademark”. What new techniques have you been using , or resorting to, software etc? What’s your favourite drawing technique?
My technique is not quite farfetched, at the beginning I used to draw with microfibers, then I switched to the pen and Indian ink and at the moment I’m using brushes filled with water to make watercolors. I put Indian ink on them and then I scan them giving some digital retouches with photoshop like contrasting or re-assembling the elements. I try to show that they are "handmade" drawings with brushes and not with digital tools (though I don't rule out the use of digital tools in the future).
-Over all these years we’ve seen your art in several places, gigs, punk book fairs, etc. Where do you feel more comfortable in?
When I exhibit what I do, I always try to do it in the environment in which I have always moved (concerts/okupas/independent cultural centers/etc). I'm not “famous” and I don't have the Art contacts so I doubt very much that I'll be called from outside the punk communty... "Art" is like music: it's not about how good your stuff is but about what contacts you have or how much money you can invest to promote yourself.
My only manager and/or press agent IS MYSELF!
- How do you see the fanzine movement today? 5 fanzines and 5 bands to recommend?
There are still some zines, as I said before. The internet has changed everything, including the zines’ world. I'll name 3 that are fundamental and unique in their style: La Ponzoña (chaotic collages, punk art full of irony and criticism), Dekadencia Humana (must be the most ancient zine in Argentina). Many insights and writings from his editor and info related to the anarkopunk and political punk world) and En la cancha se ven los pingos (a typical fanzine which includes a mix of his editor's musical tastes -punk, Oi!, heavy, rock, social criticism, from a street view approach. No academic-philosophical researches. Stories about fictional characters based on the youth subcultures. These 3 zines named have their "book version" published by Tren en Movimiento.
As for bands the ones I like the most are: Responsables no Inscriptos (RNI), Qué Risa, Los Disckolos, KrestaMurti, Tango 14, Bokasucia... all of them are still playing and active and you can listen to them on the Internet.
-As a bonus track, let's talk a little about your musical side, Massacre en el Autocine was the first band you had, right? Tell us a bit about it. Your second band Acidos Populares. Tell us a little bit about this band since not all of its members them live in the same city. Tell us also about the experience of your solo album.
As regards my "musical side" let me tell you that I don't feel a MUSICIAN or even an ARTIST, I only use this as a means of expression, both with the guitar and with the brush I do "what comes out" (which is not always as I imagine it).
The band I played in was Massacre en el Autocine, I had no musical notion but I had already read the inspiring phrase that goes as follows: "In punkrock anyone can grab an instrument and make their own band!" . Music wise we were trying to make horror punk, I think this label didn't exist yet - 1992 . Our main influences were 45 Grave/Misfits/Undead, B films and classic horror literature (Poe-Lovecraft/etc.). The lyrics were written by Vicky (RIP), she read a lot and was very good at writing. it was a big loss, the first friend that was leaving me...
M.e.e.a became Bs.As. Desorden (same name as my zine, since we had a gig with CHIQUERO - where Esteban's brother, guitarplayer in B.A. Desorden. We didn't have a name, just some rehearsals plus 5 or 6 songs). The idea was to make Oi! or punkrock 77. There were 2 punks and 2 skinheads in the band.
Bs.As Desorden lasted for less than 2 years. Nogal appeared soon afterwards. It was made up of a frontgirl (Brenda, currently in Bloodparade). We all had diverse experience in bands: I.D.S., Espias Secretos, Fuerza Interna and those already named). The result of this all was a quite original punkrock band.
At the end of 1996 I joined Acidös Pöpulares, and jsut after that I joined Klub 699 ( I spent 1 year there, recorded 2 songs for a compilation and left) . we were already playing quite a lot with Acidös, everywhere: the capital city and Gran Buenos Aires...
Terror y Miseria was later formed. That was the time when anarkopunk was all the rage (1997). Many events, many people got together at Plaza Congreso’s fanzine fair. All Terror y Miseria members were actively engaged in the fair.
In 1997 I also joined Sopa de Garron, but we played ocassionally as Panke lived in Santa Fe and me in Buenos Aires. In 2000 we travelled to Mexico for the international Enkuentro Anarkopunk and we seized the opportunity to make a mini tour TyM/Sopa de Garrón. We played in several cities...
Back then all Pöpulares members lived in different cities, for that reason almost spontaneously different lineups arose in different regions of Argentina. We ocassionally played with a certain lineup depending on the place we were . The lineups were as follows: Acidos Populares (Buenos Airess), Acidos Kuatreros (Rio Iv -Cordoba/V. Mercedes -San Luis), Acidos Tucumanes (Tucuman) and there were also Acidos Jujeños (Jujuy) and Acidos Patagonicos (Trelew/Puerto Montt-Chile). Gringo and I were part of all lineups. Also musicians from other bands joined us: Sirvientes de Nadie (Jujuy), Kara de perro/El contuvernio (Tucuman) Causa de Accion/Tumba 37 (Rio Iv Cdba), Desastre Total/Old Skulls/Amnecia (Bs.As.) Que Risa (Trelew) Aversion Social/Ñankupel (Puerto Montt-Chile).) There is a new album already recorded that we hope to release in 2019. It will be called "El Exilio" and it includes some unreleased songs, others from a former BA lineup, 2 songs with the Acidös Kuatreros and some old re-versions with the current BA lineup, with a better sound.
Thanks Seba for your patience and for taking my work into account.
You can contact me by email at dismadre@gmail.como// FB Max Vadala or instagram Bs.As. Disorder...
extraido de arte y cultura punk blogspot)
Back then all Pöpulares members lived in different cities, for that reason almost spontaneously different lineups arose in different regions of Argentina. We ocassionally played with a certain lineup depending on the place we were . The lineups were as follows: Acidos Populares (Buenos Airess), Acidos Kuatreros (Rio Iv -Cordoba/V. Mercedes -San Luis), Acidos Tucumanes (Tucuman) and there were also Acidos Jujeños (Jujuy) and Acidos Patagonicos (Trelew/Puerto Montt-Chile). Gringo and I were part of all lineups. Also musicians from other bands joined us: Sirvientes de Nadie (Jujuy), Kara de perro/El contuvernio (Tucuman) Causa de Accion/Tumba 37 (Rio Iv Cdba), Desastre Total/Old Skulls/Amnecia (Bs.As.) Que Risa (Trelew) Aversion Social/Ñankupel (Puerto Montt-Chile).) There is a new album already recorded that we hope to release in 2019. It will be called "El Exilio" and it includes some unreleased songs, others from a former BA lineup, 2 songs with the Acidös Kuatreros and some old re-versions with the current BA lineup, with a better sound.
Thanks Seba for your patience and for taking my work into account.
You can contact me by email at dismadre@gmail.como// FB Max Vadala or instagram Bs.As. Disorder...
extraido de arte y cultura punk blogspot)
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